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]]> By: Joni Johnson-Godsy http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/09/30/the-big-commission-part-ii/#comment-1277 Joni Johnson-Godsy Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:33:38 +0000 http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/09/30/the-big-commission-part-ii/#comment-1277 Yea, this is obviously a hot-button issue with me and I just don't agree that haggling with a very wealthy person over the price of a piece of art is doing yourself justice. I feel that a gracious buyer respects what an artist must charge for a painting to be worth their while to create. I do agree however on discounting the art a bit for multiple purchases. Even retail stores sometimes do that as a reward to good buyers. Here is a question for you....Do you think a buyer would ever try to haggle a price down if buying DIRECTLY from Robert Bateman, Carl Brenders or Howard Terpning? NOT! Howard Terpning's work sells for major $$$$$$ because buyers now know that he is going to be thought of as one of the great painters of our time. He has been around long enough and produced great enough art to seal this in the minds of art buyers. So when someone buys a Howard Terpning painting it is almost a guarentee that it will be worth quite a lot more in the future than it is today. His work is an investment now, not just a purchase. In my mind he is one of the most brilliant fine art painters of our day, and CERTAINLY in his genre. I am happy when anyone can get a nice financial reward for their work, expecially while they are still alive! Yea, this is obviously a hot-button issue with me and I just don’t agree that haggling with a very wealthy person over the price of a piece of art is doing yourself justice. I feel that a gracious buyer respects what an artist must charge for a painting to be worth their while to create. I do agree however on discounting the art a bit for multiple purchases. Even retail stores sometimes do that as a reward to good buyers.

Here is a question for you….Do you think a buyer would ever try to haggle a price down if buying DIRECTLY from Robert Bateman, Carl Brenders or Howard Terpning? NOT!

Howard Terpning’s work sells for major $$$$$$ because buyers now know that he is going to be thought of as one of the great painters of our time. He has been around long enough and produced great enough art to seal this in the minds of art buyers. So when someone buys a Howard Terpning painting it is almost a guarentee that it will be worth quite a lot more in the future than it is today. His work is an investment now, not just a purchase. In my mind he is one of the most brilliant fine art painters of our day, and CERTAINLY in his genre. I am happy when anyone can get a nice financial reward for their work, expecially while they are still alive!

]]> By: Julie Chapman http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/09/30/the-big-commission-part-ii/#comment-1273 Julie Chapman Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:15:15 +0000 http://julietchapman.com/blog/2008/09/30/the-big-commission-part-ii/#comment-1273 Joni - should I talk you down? (chuckling a bit - thanks for the indignation) - now, please note that I didn't say this collector actually DID any of these things...but they are things artists should be aware of in the commission process, as I have experienced them all more than once. I have a little different take on the issue, though: art is a 'soft' item in that the price is not set by fixed costs and profits throughout a supply chain ... the price is, well, whatever the artist, gallery, and collector can agree on. Is a Terpning worth the gazillions people pay for one? I tend to think not; they're magnificent, but there are plenty of other artists painting just as well and making a fraction of the money. The market has decided - for now - what one of his pieces is worth. It ain't logical, in other words. Collectors who purchase multiple paintings from a gallery at one time frequently ask for a discount, and I think that's just fine - they're spending quite a lot in so doing. I didn't pay list price for my car when I bought it - I called around and haggled. This collector is commissioning multiple pieces at one go, and the same logic can be applied. Joni - should I talk you down? (chuckling a bit - thanks for the indignation) - now, please note that I didn’t say this collector actually DID any of these things…but they are things artists should be aware of in the commission process, as I have experienced them all more than once.

I have a little different take on the issue, though: art is a ’soft’ item in that the price is not set by fixed costs and profits throughout a supply chain … the price is, well, whatever the artist, gallery, and collector can agree on. Is a Terpning worth the gazillions people pay for one? I tend to think not; they’re magnificent, but there are plenty of other artists painting just as well and making a fraction of the money. The market has decided - for now - what one of his pieces is worth. It ain’t logical, in other words.

Collectors who purchase multiple paintings from a gallery at one time frequently ask for a discount, and I think that’s just fine - they’re spending quite a lot in so doing. I didn’t pay list price for my car when I bought it - I called around and haggled. This collector is commissioning multiple pieces at one go, and the same logic can be applied.

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